Guest Blog by Kate Fincham: An IPC Nurse Abroad – How My Career Changed My Perception of Risk

I’ve written about a bit previously about how travel and seasonality can impact infection risk, and how our perceptions of those risks can change our behaviour. This week, we have a wonderful guest blog from Kate Fincham that takes that discussion one step further, by talking about, not only how we can think about risk, but also what actions we can take as a result of that thinking.

Kate is a born microbiologist, even if she was diverted by the world of nursing and has gone on to become a cracking Infection Prevention and Control nurse. Her curiosity and willingness to learn and the knowledge she has to any scenario is part of what makes her such a great IPC practitioner. Even with her all skill though, risk management is about controlling exposure risk, it doesn’t mean you can avoid it all. I’m really grateful she decided to write about how she views risk outside of her normal environment, and I think it will definitely play into my future thinking.

Blog by Kate Fincham

Working in Infection Prevention and Control has changed the way I look at risk. Not because I think everything is dangerous, but because assessing risk has become second nature. I think about how likely something is to happen, what the consequences might be and whether there is anything reasonable I can do to reduce it.

Travel is where I notice this most. From what I eat and drink to whether I wear a mask on a plane, my choices are influenced by what I have learnt throughout my career. Does that mean I avoid everything risky? Definitely not. If I did, I would probably never leave the house.

For me, risk assessment is not about eliminating every possible hazard. It is about deciding which risks matter, which precautions feel proportionate and what I am prepared to accept. A recent trip to Malta made me think about that balance more than usual.

Eating out on holiday is where my risk perception really shows

Food is one of the best parts of travelling, but my career has changed some of my choices. I used to love mussels and shellfish. Now I am more likely to choose something else.

That is not because all shellfish is dangerous. Plenty of people eat it without any problems. It is simply that knowing more about the potential risks has changed whether I personally think they are worth taking.

Take oysters. I have never eaten one and probably never will. Partly because I cannot get past the texture, but also because they are filter feeders and can concentrate microorganisms from the surrounding water. Raw oysters have been associated with infections including Vibrio and norovirus.

Some people look at an oyster and see a delicacy. I look at one and think, Is this particular risk worth taking for something with the texture of that?

For me, no.

I am not saying nobody should eat them. Two people can have exactly the same information and make completely different choices. If I really loved oysters, perhaps I would feel differently. But when I am already unsure about the food and aware of the potential consequences, it does not feel worth it.

If the menu also contains a warning about consuming raw or undercooked food, that usually confirms my decision.

I check the restaurant ratings

I do not read every review, but I will usually check the overall rating before deciding where to eat.

For me, anything above 4.5 out of 5 is generally reassuring enough. It does not prove the restaurant is perfect or eliminate all risk, but I am not looking for certainty. I am looking for enough information to feel comfortable with my decision.

Could a highly rated restaurant still have a problem? Of course. Could someone become unwell despite the rating? Absolutely. But do I need to analyse every complaint or conduct my own outbreak investigation before dinner? No.

I am on holiday. A rating above 4.5 is usually enough for me to think, That will probably do.

What about the water?

I do not automatically assume tap water is unsafe because I am abroad. I check the advice for the destination. If official guidance recommends avoiding it, I will drink bottled water and consider things such as ice and food preparation too.

That is probably what IPC has changed most about the way I think. Rather than dividing things into “safe” and “dangerous”, I ask: What is the actual risk here, and is there a simple way of reducing it?

The answer depends on the destination, the available information and my own circumstances.

Then there is the plane

Modern aircraft generally have effective ventilation, and many use HEPA filtration. But travelling still involves spending prolonged periods around lots of people, as well as airports, queues, boarding and public transport.

Could I wear a well-fitting mask through the airport and on the plane to reduce my exposure to respiratory infections? Yes.

Do I? No.

That is the perfect example of what I mean. Knowing that a precaution could reduce risk does not mean I will use it every time. At some point, I decide what feels proportionate and what level of risk I am prepared to accept.

My risk perception is not necessarily yours

We can be presented with the same risk and respond to it differently. Age, health, previous experiences and who we are responsible for all affect the calculation.

I do not have children, so I am assessing risk primarily for myself. If I did, I imagine I would be more cautious. I would be considering questions I do not currently have to think about: What if my child became unwell? Are they drinking enough? What medicines can they have? Where is the nearest doctor? At what point would I seek help?

Children can become dehydrated more quickly than adults, particularly with vomiting or diarrhoea, so the consequences of an illness may also be different.

Parents will still make different decisions, of course. I am not suggesting there is one correct level of caution. The person making the decision matters just as much as the hazard itself. The same risk can feel very different depending on your health, responsibilities, previous experiences and how much control you feel you have.

After all that, guess who got ill?

Despite considering food, water and everything else, I still got ill in Malta. We had not been clubbing or on massive packed boat trips. I had not abandoned all my principles and eaten twelve raw oysters.

Yet something got me.

According to TikTok, I had “Malta flu.”

Once TikTok realised I was in Malta, my feed became an endless stream of people talking about it: people coughing, feeling desperately unwell and ending up in hospital.

Naturally, I wondered what “Malta flu” actually was.

The problem is that it is not a specific diagnosis. It is a non-specific label used online to describe respiratory illnesses experienced in or after visiting Malta. Coughing, congestion, fever, sore throat and fatigue can be caused by COVID-19, influenza or other respiratory viruses.

Without testing, I could not confidently tell you what I had.

Did I need to know what I had?

I was curious and I could have paid for a lateral flow test or PCR testing. But then I thought about what the result would actually tell me.

These tests look for specific targets. A COVID-19 test looks for SARS-CoV-2, while an influenza test looks for influenza. Some respiratory panels test for several pathogens, depending on what they include. A negative result would not automatically mean I did not have a viral infection; it would mean those particular targets had not been detected.

So I asked myself: Would knowing exactly what I had change what I did?

For me, at that point, no.

I needed to rest, stay hydrated, manage my symptoms and monitor whether I was improving or worsening. In IPC, identifying an organism can be important because it may change precautions or management. But lying in a hotel room surrounded by tissues, I did not need to identify my pathogen. I needed the coughing to give me five minutes’ peace.

That was my decision in my circumstances, not a suggestion that testing is never useful. For someone vulnerable, or living or travelling with someone vulnerable, the result might influence what they do next.

The important question was not whether testing was inherently worthwhile, but whether it would change the decision I needed to make.

Then came the chesty cough

After a couple of days, things became less fun. I had barely slept for two nights, was wheezing, had a constantly streaming nose and a very chesty cough.

Did I wonder whether I needed antibiotics?

Absolutely.

When you are exhausted and coughing all night, there is a little voice asking whether antibiotics might sort everything out. But a chesty cough does not automatically mean a bacterial infection. It could still be a viral respiratory infection, and antibiotics do not treat viruses.

Taking antibiotics when they are not needed can cause side effects and contributes to antimicrobial resistance, making infections harder to treat.

So, despite briefly fantasising about a magical course of antibiotics, “just in case” was not a good enough reason for me to take them. That was my decision in that situation, not a judgement about anyone else’s symptoms. Sometimes antibiotics are needed, and persistent, severe or worsening symptoms may require medical attention.

Would I have made the same decision somewhere else?

In Malta, antibiotics are prescription only. In some parts of the world, they are easier to obtain without a prescription.

That made me wonder whether our surroundings influence the decisions we make about our health. If you have a horrible chesty cough, have barely slept and can easily buy antibiotics without seeing a doctor, would you take them “just in case”?

Does easy access make treatment seem more necessary? Does needing a prescription create a useful pause to consider whether antibiotics are actually indicated?

Access, culture, previous experiences and expectations can all alter our perception of what treatment we “need”. Sometimes the decision is influenced not only by the illness itself, but by which options are available and how easy they are to access.

At what point do you seek medical help?

TikTok kept showing me people who had ended up in hospital with “Malta flu”, some of whom mentioned receiving IV fluids. When you are lying awake at 3am coughing relentlessly, it is easy to compare yourself with strangers online.

But their experiences could not tell me what was happening to me. I did not know whether we had the same infection, their age, medical history, observations or why they needed hospital treatment.

Everyone’s body and immune response is different. The same infection can be relatively mild in one person and much more significant in another.

This is also where the boundary between personal experience and medical advice matters. I am describing the questions I considered as a nurse dealing with my own illness, not giving anyone else a checklist for deciding whether to stay at home.

Significant breathing difficulty, worsening wheeze, chest pain, confusion, significant dehydration or severe or rapidly worsening symptoms need appropriate medical advice. If you are concerned about yourself or a child, particularly where there are underlying health conditions or other vulnerabilities, seek medical advice rather than using my experience or somebody else’s TikTok as your benchmark.

Good job I packed a pharmacy… sort of

As a nurse, I thought I had prepared for every holiday illness imaginable.

Diarrhoea? Covered.

Travel sickness? Covered.

Headache? Covered.

Hangover? Obviously covered.

What I had not prepared for was several consecutive days of respiratory symptoms. By day two, my supplies were looking considerably less impressive, so I went to the pharmacy and came back with nasal spray, decongestant, cough medicine and cold and flu remedies.

I was not trying to cure the mysterious “Malta flu”. I was trying to feel comfortable enough to function while my body dealt with whatever I had picked up.

It was a useful reminder that risk assessment does not stop once you become ill. The questions simply change. Instead of asking, How can I avoid this?, you ask, How unwell am I, what can I manage myself and when do I need help?

So what did “Malta flu” actually teach me?

Probably that my career has not taught me how to avoid risk. It has taught me how to think about it.

Before travelling, I can check the advice. I can decide whether to eat raw seafood or wear a mask on a plane. I can think differently about a situation if I am travelling with someone more vulnerable.

But none of those decisions gives me complete control over whether I get ill.

I do not know exactly where I caught whatever caused my “Malta flu”, or which virus it was. In my case, I did not need to know. I needed to manage my symptoms, monitor how I was feeling and know when to seek help.

That is probably what risk perception comes down to.

We can have the same information and make different decisions because we are not all assessing it from the same position.

Risk is not simply about whether a hazard exists. It is also about how likely we think it is, what the consequences might be, how much control we feel we have and what we are prepared to accept.

I checked the travel advice. I avoided the raw oysters. I checked the restaurant ratings and decided that anything above 4.5 out of 5 was reassuring enough. I packed enough medication to open a small pharmacy.

And I still ended up awake at 3am, coughing my lungs up and surrounded by enough tissues to cause a national shortage.

Risk assessed. Pathogen unidentified. Holiday compromised.

All opinions in this blog are my own

Environment Network 2024: Environmental risk assessment what do we need to know?

As Girlymicro has a) got tonsillitis and b) attempting to run the day, todays blog is a guest blog brought to you by frequent Girlymicrobiologist contributors and Environment Network stakeholder members: Sam Watkin and Dr Claire Walker.

It’s the most wonderful time of the year! Today is the Environment Network meeting where we gather together to talk all things environmental risk assessment.  This is a network for people in clinical, scientific and engineering roles within the NHS and other associated organisations who are interested in the role of environmental infection prevention and control in preventing infection. Despite being an immunologist (Claire Walker) for most of my career, this is one of my favourite meetings of the year. Everyone is deeply passionate about what they do and how we can work together to exchange ideas and improve practice.

Too kick us off, we have the wonderful Professor Elaine Cloutman-Green and Lena Ciric welcoming us to a day of interactive sessions on key issues in the field. Prof C-G sets the scene for our day introducing the concept of our different perceptions of risk assessment and the challenge of unexpected consequences. Of course we understand the triumvirate of identify, understand and mitigate problems but how an engineer approaches risk is quite different to how a clinician might. As Prof C-G says clinical risk assessment is not a zero harm game, it is about controlling real rather than theoretical harm. A balance needs to be stuck between what is most appropriate for the patient – we could keep patients in bubbles and not even have healthcare professionals approach them, but I doubt that patient would fare very well! There is a need to balance the approach of the clinical and the engineer to find an optimal position to minimise harm. To make these decisions we need to consider the interaction between organism, patient and the built environment in order to work out what the control measure should look like. Problems aren’t simple, we need to accept and embrace that risk assessment is a complex process. And perhaps most importantly we need to take the time to see the perspectives of others, or we might never see the elephant in the room.

Risk assessment has the potential to make use all uncomfortable, as scientists we do not enjoy the unknown. In good risk assessment A plus B does not always equal C, it might do 50% of the time so we have to rely on our best judgement. Moreover, risk is not static. All patient and clinical environments are quite different as we need to pick the point that works for that situation – National guidance can never cover all of these unique situations. A multi-disciplinary team approach is essential to ensure we are asking the right questions.

Next up we have Dr Susanne Surman-Lee giving a talk on combining clinical and engineering risk and why working in silos hinders risk assessments. Silo working at all levels, even within a team, can cause a raft of problems, with poor communication, different priorities, resource conflicts and inefficiencies. This can mean those in each silo work to their desired outcomes, not taking into account what other requirements may be. The danger of this is that it ultimately increases the risk to patients.

A poll found that the event was well attended by people from a range of disciplines, covering many relevant professions to environmental infection control. We often all want different things from a building, be that aesthetic, cost or usability. What is critical, and reflected in new guidance, is that the purpose of a building must be to put the patient first.

To escape working in silos, the audience recognised that communication is absolutely key. Working as a single team, sharing respect, data sharing and fostering a collaborative culture is all needed to break down individual working silos. This enables the project team to work as a single unit, supporting faster, safer decisions across strategic levels.

A set of examples on real-world decision-making processes highlighted not only the importance of accurate record keeping when it comes to decision-making, but also what can happen when an IPC challenge is only viewed through teams working in silos.

When considering waterborne infection risks, a multitude of challenges, both from an engineering and non-engineering standpoint must be considered. This can range from inadequate usage leading to stagnation, poor hygiene during installation and poor labelling, outlet misuse, poor cleaning techniques and inappropriate assessment if transmission risks as examples.

Ultimately, we must consider the problem as a whole. Different hazards and sources of pathogens overlap, meaning we must work across disciplines to mitigate risk. We also must gather information from multiple sources to identify risks to make sure a risk isn’t overlooked.

Updated guidance has recently been produced following an outbreak of non-tuberculous Mycobacteria for the safe design and management of new buildings calls for collaborative working throughout the project, with continual risk assessments and project ownership by the trust. Having a multidisciplinary approach can help effectively design and manage risk, improving IPC risk assessment and decision-making procedures.

In this final session before some essential caffeine, we have Andrew Poplett taking us on a whistle stop tour of derogation management. Derogations, like puppies, are for life – if you agree to one you must be sure as they are extremely difficult to reverse. We know that unless specifically stated much of the guidance in not mandatory. However departure or derogation from HTM should provide a degrees of safety NOT LESS THAN that achieved by following the guidance laid out in the HTM.

A derogation is an exemption from or relation of a standard or rule but it must be carefully managed, documented and justified. It must be risk assessed and cannot be to reduce costs. Of course, the bugs haven’t read the HTMs and they really don’t care about the budget! Minimum standards and patient safety guidelines cannot be derogated, but for those for those ‘nice to haves’ there is some wriggle room. So why do we want to derogate? Situations like conflicting guidance and refurbishment of existing buildings. Once again we are lead to the conclusion that these decisions must be the result of a multi-disciplinary team approach and risk assessments – these decisions can’t be made solely by a financial manager, an engineer, a microbiologist or infection prevention and control, but requires a meeting of minds to reach the right conclusion. The cornerstone of derogations is communication, ideally reaching a sensible and agreed consensus that balances risk, compliance and other important factors (like cost!). Ego needs to be left at the door or we might need to start hiring some referees!

If you break the rules, you really need to document why, what, who and when. It’s not to say that we shouldn’t, as we know every circumstance is difference. But transparency is essential to the process, and they do need to be reviewed regularly. As a final thought, Andrew invites us to consider that it is important to remember that it is always cheaper to invest the time upfront because short cuts tend to end in expensive disaster.

After a quick coffee break, we have Louise Clarke from GPT Consult discussing capturing water and ventilation risks as part of governance strategies. First off, we must understand what risks we actually need to assess and manage. We often have aging infrastructures, changes in usage, hidden infrastructure, access challenges and maintenance works. Not only that, how people use and view spaces factors into the risks we must assess.

When assessing risk, it must be suitable and sufficient. But what does that actually mean? It depends on what you are trying to deliver, what you are looking for and what is being managed. Five-by-five risk matrices do not necessarily capture the complexities of these risks. Not only this, a huge amount od information is required for effective assessment. Factors like patient factors, unique building features, data from building management systems must all be considered. Not only that, but there are a large amount of unknown factors which need to be considered. The current state of a building and the equipment in place is important to consider, with the impact these may have in the future on risk taken into account. Overall risk profiles are needed but challenging to achieve as many people view the risk of a setting from different perspectives.

All risk assessments must be performed within the appropriate legislation. This covers government legislation, approved codes of practice and best practice guidance (such as the HTMs). To ensure that all standards and met and the process of derogation is appropriately followed, governance structures have to be followed. But these structures themselves can be difficult to navigate. The reporting of information gathered from the building (such as information from the building management system) can be challenging through these structures. How do we ensure the data is appropriately recorded, interpreted and presented? Do governance structures effectively allow for this process and make sure that the data collected useful and enables risk assessment? So, how should the data we collect from the building be presented? As with many things, it depends. What the intended use of the information is, how is needs to be interpreted and disseminated all matter.

Typical governance structures include water and ventilation safety groups. These groups serve to bring together estates, infection control, representatives from the relevant clinical units, contractors in order to assess risk and make informed decisions. Are such meetings suitable to address risk? The volume of data that must be presented, understood and used to inform decisions is massive, and these meetings are time-constrained. A lot of the processes will be informed by the risk appetite of the organisation. Information may not be available and work may not be possible. As such, appropriate record keeping and reporting is crucial. Taking this all in, governance strategies which to be implemented must be practical, realistic, effective, suitable and sufficient.

Sadly Dr Derren Ready from UKHSA is enjoying a marvellous holiday so we have a recording from him today. We are venturing into the field of community risk assessments and the considerations that are notably different from in the hospital. There are significant challenges, as highlighted by the consideration of the prison system where an outbreak might further restrain the liberty of the prisoners impacting significantly on their mental and physical wellness, thus careful balances need to be struck. In essence, the challenges of the community require a different set of questions to be answered in risk assessment.

In community risk assessment the first stages fall to information gathering and fact checking. Information gathering might focus on the clinical, epidemiological, microbiological or environmental factors. Context of the information should be considered. In public health we often act on suspicion as time is of the essence. In the initial stages there is often simply anecdotal information and there is a need to all the facts to be checked through this dynamic process.

UKHSA bases its risk assessment of five key areas. The first of which is severity which is the seriousness of the incident in terms of the potential to cause harm to individuals or to the population. This is graded from 0-4 where 0 has a very low severity like head lice in a school whilst class 4 are extremely severe illnesses which are almost invariably fatal, like rabies or Ebola virus outbreaks. The second area is uncertainty, how sure are we that the diagnosis is correct based on epidemiological, clinical, statistical and laboratory evidence. The third area is the likelihood of the organism spreading covered by an assessment of the infective dose, virulence of the organism, mode and routes of transmission, observed spread and susceptibility of the population. Again the areas are graded from 0 to 4 allow qualification of the potential risk. The fourth area is intervention, what could be done to alter the course of the outbreak? This ranges from minimal, non invasive procedures like handwashing to an urgent mass immunisation campaign or withdrawal of all contaminated food products. Clearly some outbreaks don’t lend themselves well to specific interventions an example would include responding to a cluster of vCJD disease where remedial intervention is particularly challenging. The last key area is context. The easiest way to consider this is to think about the broader environment in which the event is occurring. Factors like public concern, attitudes, expectations, strength of professional knowledge and politics have the potential to influence decisions about the appropriate response to an outbreak.

The best way to approach this complex process is through the use of a dynamic risk assessment where the risk assessment is continually reviewed throughout the outbreak. This allows UKHSA to make the best possible decisions based on the best information available. These dynamic risk assessments can be classified an routine, standard or enhanced based on the response required to an event. The take home message is very much that risk is not static and we need robust frameworks to ensure we make the right decision at the right time.

In our final talk of this morning, we have our own soon to be Dr Sam Watkins from UCL/UKHSA. Sam’s research interest in detection of surface based pathogens in the hospital. Surfaces can be come contaminated and play an important role in the spread of infection around the hospital. Once considered tenuous, the role of surfaces in the persistence of healthcare associated infection is now well established for several pathogenic organisms. The current standard is for surfaces to be visibly clean but there is no guidance on assessment of microbiological hygiene of surfaces. It’s extremely important to remember that just because something looks clean, doesn’t mean it isn’t crawling with bugs! Again, we must consider that a one size fits all approach cannot be enforced across the NHS as we have so many different situations and patient requirements.

Sam’s research focuses on development of new tools for assessing surface-based transmission risk. Surface sampling can be many different things from contact agar plates, to specific swabbing or sponges, to PCR identification of specific viruses in a outbreak scenario all of which have different purposes. All of this information can help support clinical risk assessment and the actions of infection prevention and control. Currently surface sampling is most commonly used as a retrospective measure after a clinical incident during outbreaks. Sadly there is little guidance or framework in place to guide process in this area. Furthermore, the identification of a pathogen on the surface doesn’t provide sufficient information on if this is the cause of the outbreak. Sam’s work has been to gather prospective evidence gathering through surrogate markers which mimic a microorganism in the environment without posing any infectious risk. In Sam’s work, he has been using cauliflower mosaic virus across an outpatient and inpatient haematology oncology unit. Three markers derived from the genome of the cauliflower mosaic virus were used and inoculated on various risk level surfaces. After 8 hours the swab samples were collected from pre defined sites. The movement of the surrogate markers across the unit were investigated over the course of five days. Within 8 hours there was widespread movement of the markers across the outpatient unit. A slightly less dramatic spread was noted in the inpatient site. From this we see that there is huge variability in the dissemination of markers, markers deposited on high risk sites where identified in a greater number of places. Paediatrics certainly adds an additional dimension to this work, with children spreading viruses through an exciting game of hide and seek in the department! An important take home message here is that a one size fits all approach is unlikely to be successful, given the highly varied nature of clinical settings. A unique approach to surface-based transmission risk assessment and mitigation may therefore be needed.

With the morning session drawing to a close. We look forward to a delicious lunch, more coffee and interactive case based discussions this afternoon!

If you want to find out more about environmental infection prevention and control and future events you can check out the Environment Network here. Girlymicro has also previously posted about risk assessment and the role of the environment in healthcare settings, links to more posts can be found here. The main theme of the day was that we all need to get out of our silo’s and talk more, so let’s start that change by being bold, starting conversations and getting out of our boxes!

All opinions in this blog are my own